B
buttonsrtoys
New Member
English
- Oct 26, 2010
- #1
I frequently find myself writing an email to a work associate where I'm explaining that I had a conversation another associated to resolve an issue. So, I'll write something like "I talked to (with) Joe and we're on the same page now."
My concern is that I don't want my statement to be construed as "I lectured Joe and we're on the same page now." In other words, "talking to" or "talking with" someone can sound like (to me) lecturing or reprimanding, as in "some had a talking to." A less ambiguous comment would be "I conversed with Joe and we're on the same page now," though that sounds way to formal for an email.
So, should I use "talked to," "talked with," or is there a 3rd option I'm missing?
pops91710
Senior Member
Chino, California
English, AE/Spanish-Mexico
- Oct 26, 2010
- #2
Joe and I discussed it and we are on the same page now. The nuance between to and with are minimal at best. Context, of course, is everything. To give someone a talking to does indeed imply a scolding or lecture. It just depends on the context and how it is stated, if it is verbal communication.
B
English
- Oct 26, 2010
- #3
This is just my subjective impression, but "talked with" always sounds "nicer" to me, like it was a more balanced, two-sided discussion - both sides were heard and considered.
However, Pops' "Joe and I discussed it and we are on the same page now" seems like the perfect solution. That definitely sounds like a balanced, egalitarian conversation.
M
marquess
Senior Member
U.K.
U.K. English
- Oct 26, 2010
- #4
Or to keep closer to the original with Pops' solution "Joe and I talked (about it) and we are on the same page now".
A
AaronDale
New Member
Spokane, WA
American-English
- Oct 26, 2010
- #5
'Talked to' implies that the speaker spoke without listening.
'Talked with' implies that the speaker spoke while the other party spoke.
P
Parla
Member Emeritus
New York City
English - US
- Oct 26, 2010
- #6
I think that Aaron is being overly literal. "I talked to him yesterday" doesn't mean that the conversation consisted entirely of my talking. Nor does "I talked with him" mean that we were both jabbering away at once.
Anyway, on the original question: I, too, like Pops' solution of starting with "Joe and I..." That says immediately that both contributed to the discussion.
A
.ani.
New Member
German, English
- Oct 26, 2010
- #7
As a child I remember my parents saying one "talks with" someone if it is conversation. However, "talks to" someone if they are arguing/angry.
It's been my rule of thumb for years and seems to be doing the job.
P
Phil-Olly
Senior Member
Scotland, English
- Oct 26, 2010
- #8
I detected a shift.
For years I would quite happily have said "I was talking to John about .." but recently I've tended to switch to "..talking with John .." in order to avoid offending sensibilities.
pops91710
Senior Member
Chino, California
English, AE/Spanish-Mexico
- Oct 26, 2010
- #9
Phil-Olly said:
I detected a shift.
For years I would quite happily have said "I was talking to John about .." but recently I've tended to switch to "..talking with John .." in order to avoid offending sensibilities.
I have to agree with you. To me there does not seem to be much difference either way. However, as you said, there does seem to be a shift in both its percieved , and one's sensibilities these days. It's like so many other sayings in speech.
You must log in or register to reply here.